Notes from the May 31 Fifth Tuesday Forum

 

Topic: Police/Safety Issues

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A citizen asked if the Police Blotter could be published in full everyday.

Police Chief David Erickson

We print up the list of complaints for the previous day every morning.  I do not think it can be transferred to the web site however because it is part of our Computer Aided Dispatch program which is completely separate.  Because it could be one to two (single spaced) sheets it would be prohibitive to have someone type it up everyday.  It is available at the complaint desk for inspection.  One side note; all reference to complaints involving Juveniles, Medical issues, Sexual Assaults, and Emergency Committals are redacted from the report.

A citizen brought forward a concern that there is not enough police patrols and would like to see less time spent on reports and more time on patrol.

Police Chief David Erickson

We are driven by paperwork.  There is no way we can get away from it.  To make it worse there is a greater demand for complete and accurate reports than ever before.  Working within the legal system, reports are a necessary evil.

 

Topic: Transportation

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A citizen brought forward a concern that the city bus does not always stop at the corner of Sawyer and Porter as scheduled.

Transportation Director Mark Huddleston

The bus will stop at any corner or designated mid-block stop if a passenger is waiting at the stop and signals the driver to stop. If a passenger is on the bus they need to ring for the stop about a half a block before the stop. If a citizen has a problem with the bus service they should call our office at 232-5340 as soon as possible, and a citizen complaint form will be initiated with a maximum response time of 48 hours regarding the problem.

There was some discussion on whether the city can/should provide a bus route to the county beach/swimming facility and the north industrial park (possibly part of the Neenah route).

Transportation Director Mark Huddleston

In June 2004, the Transit Board discussed the idea of deviating the Neenah Route to the County Park. The deviation to the County Park would add approximately five (5) minutes to the route. The Neenah route needs to make on-time connections in both Neenah and Oshkosh, and the route is extended as far as possible. We have already eliminated some stops on the route in an effort to improve its on-time performance. It would be unsafe to add mileage to a route that is already stretched to the limit. I don’t believe sporadic service to the County Park would be successful. I have found that successful bus service needs to be easily understood, reliable and well promoted to a target market. If the Common Council feels service to the County Park is justified, then funding for that purpose needs to be provided. However, based on estimated ridership figures the cost appears to be prohibitive, and I don’t believe the operation of a seasonal route to the County Park is a fiscally responsible way to spend the transit system’s limited resources.

A citizen asked if the city bus times could be extended later, especially on weekends.

Transportation Director Mark Huddleston

The Transit Board will consider the extension of hours at the July 20, 2005 meeting as part of a review of the 5 year Transit Development Plan. The staff recommends retaining the existing service hours due to the current financial situation. The estimated cost for operating the system until 10:00 p.m. is $700,000 per year. A recent passenger survey showed that 98 passengers favored night service, but only five passengers were willing to pay a higher fare for extended service. This level of support doesn’t seem to justify the additional expense involved to provide night service. There have been some discussions with UWO regarding funding for night service but nothing has been finalized at this time. It is the Transit Board’s policy to provide core service to the higher density areas of the city, and not to expand service beyond our financial capabilities.

 

Topic: Streets

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A citizen asked if a line item could be added on the city tax bill specifically for street repairs (nothing else).  The example presented to us was $.25 per $1,000 of assessed value.  This example generated approximately $1 million extra in street repair revenue (based on number of properties in the city).

City Manager Richard Wollangk, Finance Director Edward Nokes, and Public Works Director David Patek

E. Nokes – We would not put a separate line on the tax bill. That is controlled by the State and we have one line per taxing authority. We could include it in the City portion of the taxes by adding it into the budget in one form or another. The $.25 increase would be about a 2.36% increase in the City rate if everything else remained the same.

 

R. Wollangk – Please see responses from Mr. Nokes and Mr. Patek.

 

D. Patek – I would say that the Engineering Division does not have the existing staff to complete an additional $1 million worth of street reconstruction projects.  This value of street construction would need an additional value of $1,273,000 of utility upgrades for a total increase of $2,273,000 based on the ratio of street to utilities in the bid for the local streets this year.  This would be about a 50% increase in workload based on the $5 million local street program that is under construction this year.  Finally, based on the bids from this year,  $1 million should pave about 0.93 miles of streets.

A citizen expressed concern with some of the terraces on Sawyer Street, specifically east of Sawyer Street on Van Buren Avenue, that need to be fixed.

Public Works Director David Patek

This section of Van Buren Avenue does not have curb & gutter.  As the residents park on the side of the street, they create potholes.  As we hand patch the street, the Street Division crew fills in these potholes.  The property in question is located on the South side of Van Buren Avenue.  It looks like the terrace has been filled with gravel over time and the property owner ends up parking vehicles in this area next to the sidewalk.  This is similar to many locations in the City where residents try to keep their vehicles out of the traveled way as much as possible.  This street is one of the whole neighborhood East of Sawyer Street that will be evaluated for a coldmix asphalt overlay in 2006.  If Van Buren Avenue is selected as a project, the Street Division will complete terrace restoration at that time.

 

Topic: Property Taxes

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We discussed State Representative Spencer Black's (D-Madison) HOPE legislation that would exempt the first $60,000 of property taxes paid to school districts.  Another citizen informed us that in order for school districts not to lose revenue, HOPE would require changes in the tax structure on corporations.

No referrals made.

State Representative Gregg Underheim (R-Oshkosh) has agreed to conduct a council workshop after the council meeting on June 14 to discuss State Legislature updates, including the state budget.  Update: Mr. Underheim canceled due to the Legislature being in session.

A citizen suggested that corporate tax breaks should not be offered as incentives to relocate or create business in the city.

No referrals made.

State Representative Gregg Underheim (R-Oshkosh) has agreed to conduct a council workshop after the council meeting on June 14 to discuss State Legislature updates, including the state budget.  Update: Mr. Underheim canceled due to the Legislature being in session.

 

Topic: Downtown Revitalization

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A citizen suggested that city staff and council members look at what and how Neenah and Appleton revitalized their downtown and how they attracted (and retained) more businesses.

Community Development Director Jackson Kinney and Oshkosh Commercial Development Corporation Executive Director Rob Kleman

J. Kinney – We always keep an eye on what other communities in the Valley are doing in their downtowns, and in other parts of the State and country.  We never mind robbing and stealing good ideas from other communities.  Over the years we have gotten copies of their plans and we've looked at various projects other communities have done and we've utilized ideas wherever possible.  Of course every community is unique in its physical setting and in the dynamics of local groups, businesses, developers, and the political climate for addressing various activities.  We need to keep in mind that what works in one community may not work in another, but it is always important to learn from what others are doing.  That is why we try to attend various meetings, conferences, etc., and get information from various communities on an ongoing basis.

 

Topic: Leach Amphitheatre

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We discussed if a surcharge should exist, how it would be implemented, who would be charged, and should a surcharge exist on all public facilities, e.g., Grand Opera House and Lakeshore Golf Course.

Parks Director Tom Stephany (to also follow up with PMI)

The Grand Opera House already assesses a surcharge on all ticket sales.  There will be a council workshop after the council meeting on July 12 to discuss an amphitheatre surcharge.

A citizen asked how the city decided upon receiving 10% or $30,000 of gross revenues from PMI (the management group).

Parks Director Tom Stephany (to also follow up with PMI)

A committee was formed in June 2004 to study and discuss management alternatives for the “new Riverside Park amphitheater.”  One alternative was to contract with an individual or organization for Programming Services, and to have Buildings and Grounds, plus Food and Beverage operations managed by the Parks Department.  The Parks Director was asked to create budgets for the two above functions.

With the amphitheater being a new venture, and no budgetary history, there was a challenge in the development of a buildings and grounds budget.  A budget was created primarily on some known costs, plus guesstimates.  For example, it was known that one seasonal employee could maintain buildings and grounds, at a cost of $5,490.00.  It was also known that $1,000 would be needed to fertilize the turf.   The unknowns included utility costs, equipment rentals, etc. (typically, three years of costs assist in the calculation of averages and a more accurate budget.)  A third item in the budget included $3,000 for a Reserve Fund for future maintenance of the stage (the $3,000 was identified before the approval of the construction of the restrooms and concession stands.)  The initial buildings and grounds budget came to $20,000.  When it was decided to solicit for a management company to manage both programming, plus food and beverage operations, the Request for Proposals stated that a payment of $30,000, or 10% of gross sales “shall be paid to the City.”  The $30,000 had to do with adding an extra $10,000 to the initial $20,000, as contingency, to cover other unknowns.  With regard to the 10%, that number was agreed-on by staff.  Typically, venues like the amphitheater will require management companies or contractors to pay somewhere between 5% and 15% of gross sales.  The thought was that the 10% would be a “nice” middle number, and a good one to use.

Several citizens asked if the city could remind the community that the amphitheatre is located within Riverside Park and is open to the public when scheduled events are not being held in the venue.

Parks Director Tom Stephany (to also follow up with PMI)

To-date, there has been no discussion with regard to a sign along Ceape advertising Riverside Park.  It is something that, perhaps, should be looked at, especially as the park continues to be developed.  People can be made aware of the property, as a park, through department publications, the media, City Council comments, etc.  The gates are always left open, except for productions.  Permanent signs will be posted in the near future to inform people of park times, and when the gates will be closed for productions.

A citizen suggested the city partner with UW Oshkosh and area high school bands to offer free or reduced rate concerts.

Parks Director Tom Stephany (to also follow up with PMI)

I have asked Parks Director Tom Stephany to forward these suggestions to PMI.

It was suggested that free movies be held at the amphitheatre as well as moving the farmer's market to Riverside Park.

Parks Director Tom Stephany (to also follow up with PMI)

I have asked Parks Director Tom Stephany to forward these suggestions to PMI.

Another citizen requested the Milwaukee Symphony to play at the amphitheatre.

Parks Director Tom Stephany (to also follow up with PMI)

I have asked Parks Director Tom Stephany to forward these suggestions to PMI.

 

Topic: Parks

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It was suggested that the city name a park "Veterans Park".

Parks Director Tom Stephany

The idea of naming a park “Veterans Park” has come-up in the past.  That name was one of the names recommended for, what is now named, “Opera House Square Park.”  The parks system already has three parks honoring veterans: Red Arrow Park, Hikers Monument, and Rainbow Park.  A fourth park named in honor of veterans can always be considered in the future.

There was a concern that Opera House Square does not have a flagpole.

Parks Director Tom Stephany

Deputy Mayor Frank Tower informed us that a flagpole should be installed sometime in the near future.

 

J. Kinney – LDR prepared the design plan for the Opera House Square area (the square itself and adjoining Market Street), and they have recommended a location that is the best fit for 3 flagpoles - the NW corner of High Avenue and Market Street near the Grand Opera House.  LDR does not believe that a flagpole should be introduced directly into the green space environment of the square itself since a flagpole is a significant design element and the basic design integrity of the square rests with the symmetry of three key vertical elements: the Sun Dial/Fountain; the Clock on the NW corner of Main and High; and the Civil War monument.  The plan for Market Street and the integration of the flagpoles within that area is an integral part of the design for the Opera House Square area.  In fact some dollars have been donated and are sitting in the Foundation to assist with the costs of the flagpole installation when funds can be garnered in the City's Capital Improvement Program for the needed streetscape improvements along Market Street.

 

T. Stephany – Please see Mr. Kinney’s response.

A citizen brought forward a concern that Roe Park has a flagpole but no flag.

Parks Director Tom Stephany

There is a flagpole at Roe Park, but flags are only flown during special days, i.e., Memorial Day, Flag Day, 4th of July.  There is no light at the base of the Roe Park flagpole.  Per the U.S. Flag Code, flags are not supposed to be flown at night unless lighted.  There is no known requirement that all parks shall have flagpoles and flags flying.  There are several parks within the Oshkosh Parks System that do not have flagpoles or flags.

 

Topic: Oshkosh Convention Center

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It was suggested that the city needs a larger convention center and more hotel rooms in the city to accommodate larger conferences and conventions.

No referrals made.

The city is still working through the legal system to receive the back taxes owed by Heyde Hospitality.

We discussed how the Park Plaza and Convention Center are now under new management.

No referrals made.

The city is still working through the legal system to receive the back taxes owed by Heyde Hospitality.

 

Topic: City Staff

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A citizen questioned whether or not city department heads get membership into organizations and professional magazines/journals paid for out of the city budget.

City Manager Richard Wollangk

Yes, a number of the department heads do belong to their professional organizations and the City pays the dues.  The feeling has always been that we want our staff to continually be up to date in their fields and belonging to their professional organizations is an excellent way to accomplish this goal.

A citizen asked who is responsible for notifying city staff and council of repairs needed in city facilities.  It was also asked if an inventory was conducted on the status of all city facilities.

City Manager Richard Wollangk

Individual departments are responsible to maintain the facilities under their control in consultation with our maintenance staff and bring any needed repairs or renovations to my attention at budget time or in an emergency immediately.  Our facilities person works with the departments on keeping an inventory of all of our facilities for insurance purposes.

 

Topic: New Citizens Academy

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A citizen asked where the Department of Community Development was on creating the new citizens academy, how it will be publicized, and the process to take part in it.

Community Development Director Jackson Kinney

We are working on it as we speak.  In fact we had a meeting on this yesterday (June 07).  We will be having a meeting of all City Departments shortly, and we expect to get information out to the public very soon in order to solicit applications from interested citizens.

 

Topic: Aviation Plaza

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A citizen expressed concern with the "emptiness" of Aviation Plaza and encouraged the city to look into the possibility of filling the "box" stores before building new ones.

Community Development Director Jackson Kinney and Oshkosh Commercial Development Corporation Executive Director Rob Kleman

J. Kinney – It doesn't make sense to put all our eggs in one basket and attempt to deal with one particular property while ignoring other opportunities elsewhere in the community.  The Department has had specific discussions with OCDC about this particular property, and those discussions will continue. OCDC has made contacts regarding the property, and we will see if we can develop some proactive approach for dealing with that property.  In recent years communities have begun to adopt special ordinances to deal with big box retail locations, which ordinances sometimes include provisions relating to relocation and re-occupancy efforts on vacated centers.  In Oshkosh, if you look at the 41 Corridor and the 21 Corridor, and you look at the big boxes that we've had for a number of years, a question can be raised as to whether such an ordinance makes sense at this point.  We can always consider that.  Our efforts at this point are aimed at doing what we can to interest retailers such as Kohl's, Lowes, and Home Depot in coming into the Oshkosh market. 

 

Topic: Sawdust Days

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A citizen expressed concern that last year the Police Department would not ticket and tow vehicles blocking driveways of homes (this citizen said she and her family could not get in or out of their driveway).

Police Chief David Erickson

I don’t know why we wouldn’t ticket a car illegally parked, such as in front of or too close to a driveway.  Sawdust Days should have nothing to do with it.  We ticket such cars all the time.  All the homeowner needs do is call and complain.  However, having said that, we do not tow vehicles parked across a driveway.  That is up to the homeowner to do.  We ticket and they do the towing.

Parking on the no parking side of Merritt Avenue was also brought forward as a concern.

Police Chief David Erickson

If the vehicle is illegally parked in either a normally posted “No Parking” location or a location temporarily posted “No Parking” for the special event we will ticket.  You may remember all the bad press we received a couple years ago because of cars ticketed in the area on the Old Mercy Hospital on Hazel St.  These cars were in parked in an area that was posted by us for “No Parking” because of all the pedestrian traffic we have in the area and to make visibility better for drivers.  We normally do not tow vehicles in cases such as this and reserve towing in the interest of public safety only.  A good example of this is the area of the car bridge in the park.  Because it is so narrow in that area when cars parked it up emergency vehicles couldn’t get through.  We ended up towing several cars.  Eventually we had the Parks Department permanently post it as a tow away zone.  The problem we have in the park for special events is that sometimes people will park and just take the ticket as a fee.  They don’t care.  That is why we asked the Council to add to the parking ordinances a time frame for issuing a second and subsequent tickets for the same violation.  I guess the bottom line is that we are very aggressive in enforcing the parking ordinances in the area of special events when possible.  There may be times when we are too busy to write tickets, but most of the time we do.

A citizen asked if it was possible for the city to provide shuttles from larger parking lots within the city to Sawdust Days.  Some suggested lots were the Leach Amphitheatre, EAA, UW Oshkosh, and Oshkosh public and private schools.

City Manager Richard Wollangk and Parks Director Tom Stephany

T. Stephany – First, Sawdust Days is managed and operated by a non-profit organization. According to Transportation Director, Mark Huddleston, a shuttle has been tried in the past, and from what is understood, there was very little ridership.  With the popularity of Sawdust Days, a shuttle could provide a service.  That service should be coordinated, though, through the Sawdust Days Committee.  If there was a strong demonstrated need (more requests), this service might be more highly considered.

 

R. Wollangk – Please see Mr. Stephany’s response.

 

Last updated: June 14, 2005